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08:06Good morning everyone, and welcome to the Leaving Cert helpdesk. Our expert guidance counsellors Brian Howard and Deirdre Garrett will be here until 6 to answer any questions you may have today regarding the CAO, or anything else. In the meantime check www.irishtimes.com/results2016 for information about college life, exam results analysis, and discussion on CAO points.
10:15I want to check the marking on one of my papers, how do I go about checking my scriptsThe State Examinations Commission provide an opportunity to allow candidates to view their scripts and if they wish, to go one step further and appeal their grade(s). We always advise to view scripts before going ahead and appealing. If you wish to view your scripts you will have received a personalised application form with your results, which will show your examination details including your subjects. You need to complete this form and return it to your school where you sat your exams by Tuesday 23rd August 2016.
The organising superintendent appointed by the SEC to your school will then assign you to one of the viewing sessions. These are:
Friday 2nd September from 6pm to 9pm
Saturday 3rd September from 9am to 12 noon
Saturday 3rd September from 2pm to 5pmRemember you must be available in person at the viewing centre to view your scripts and you can be accompanied by one other person.
My son got great results. Just not sure if it will give him his first preference for CAO offers next week. Should he always view his papers just to make sure he is happy that there are not a few results very close to a higher grade?
The viewing of scripts can help reassure the student. It allows the student to see where marks were gained and lost. It mainly gives the student an opportunity to identify any errors in how marks were or were not awarded.
There is no fee charged for the viewing of scripts. However, if one does decide to have their paper rechecked then there will be a €40 fee for this service.
Please see post above regarding the procedure that's involved with the viewing/ appeals process.
Congratulations to both you and your son.
My Son got 455 points but Primary Teavhing is 470. He has all the entry requirements and was accepted for the HEAR scheme. Will he have a chance of getting it?
No one knows what the pointss will be until next Monday. 2016 points will be influenced by a combination of the demand for this course, the supply of places and the results that the candidates looking to do this course achieve.
Personally, I would be optimistic that he will be offered a place given that he will recieve a point reduction under the HEAR scheme. It will also depend on the number of HEAR applicants wishing to do this course and their points.
The best of luck. We hope that it works out for you.
I got 480 points but my preferred course is 515 points. I have qualified for the DARE scheme so I was wondering how likely it is that I will get the 35 point jump I need? Thanks.
If you have met the entry requirements for the course in question then you possibly have a good chance of getting a reduced points place. Remember the colleges treat DARE applicants differently and with a lot of variety in their systems. I would suggest you follow this link and read up on how the college in question treats successful DARE applicants and it will give you a sense of how you are going to be treated and your chances of getting a place on your course.
My daughter got 520 points however she was hoping for occupational therapy in cork what is the likelihood of points dropping for this course
No one will know the answer to this until Monday. 2106 points for this course will be determined by the demand for this course as well as the results of hopeful candidates along with the number of places available on this course for 2016.
The healthcare courses tend to be popular. Thirty five points would be quite a drop. However, no one will know for definite until Monday.
We will be here again on Monday. Please get in touch if you need guidance.
Hi my daughter got 445 points and wonders will this be enough for Social Science in UCD which was 420 last year. Appreciate CAO out on Monday but would like your view. Thanks
This year stats have shown a dip in the demand for social science courses. However, whatever effect this will have on points will depend on the number of candidates showing interest in this area and the points that these candidates bring to the table along with the number of places available.
A twenty five point increase is a possibility but I would think your daughter should be safe enough.
I didn't get the points I was looking for today. What are my options now.
Even though you may be disappointed now you hopefully will see that there are plenty of options out there for you to consider. We don't know what the points will be for courses this year until next Monday so don't try to preempt what might happen. If you are hoping to go to 3rd level through the CAO system, remember if you don't get your first preference you may get a lower preference which you might be happy to accept or indeed you may get offered a course at a different level which may give you a pathway to get you to what you want. Try to calmly wait until Monday to see what happens and if you are still not happy come back to us with more specifics and hopefully we can help you out. Good luck.
Hello my brother unfortunately got an E grade in higher level maths. Under new maths grade reforms, will colleges accept over 30% in maths as a pass? Or will he have to repeat the maths exam? Please could uou inform us of his options.Many thanks
Hi, the new LC grading system does not come into operation until next year, 2017 Entry. If a student gets a Higher E this year in Maths this is not considered a pass for matriculation purposes and no points are awarded. Next year if a student gets between 30 and 40%, they will get a grade H7 and will receive 37 points for this. It will be considered as a pass for matriculation purposes. So in a years time your brother will be facing a different scenario where he has met the Maths matriculation requirement. Repeating his Maths will not be necessary. Remember there are a number of colleges offering a second chance exam in Maths over the next few days so it might be no harm for him to contact his preferred college and find out if this could help him this year.
What if my daughter does not recieve any offers from the cao, because she doesn't have enough points for the chosen courses. What can she apply for.
No one will know the 2016 points for courses until Monday. Don't lose all hope yet.
There are still plenty of choices available and there is still time to apply.
Option 1: CAO Available Places. Each year vacant places appear on the CAO website. Applicants for these places will be accepted by CAO from next Tuesday, August 23rd. Places will be available until all offers have been exhausted. Your daughter may be interested in one of these courses.
Option 2: Many private colleges have courses that are not in the CAO. Direct application must be made. However, these colleges will charge fees. The fees are tax deductible.
Option 3: Further Education Courses (PLC'S)
Colleges of Education exist all over the country. Most colleges offer courses at Level 5 (one year) and Level 6 ( two years). Such courses prepare their students to enter the working market and or to use their results from their PLC course to progress to Higher Education. The entry requirement tends to be five passes at Leaving Cert level. I would advise you to check with the college of interest. Applicants apply directly to these colleges.
Option 4: Apprenticeships/ Trades
There is up to twenty six apprenticeship programmes coming on track. Please check the Solas website for more information www.solas.ie
Option 5: Studying in the UK
U.C.A.S is the U.K. equivalent of the CAO system. You can apply now and enter into wha'ts known as the clearing system. Check www.ucas.com
Option 6: Teagasc also offer courses outside of the CAO. Their website is www.teagasc.ie
Please get back on if you need more clarity or guidance.
11:48I failed higher level maths , got a grade E! What are my options now?
You need to check the Leaving Cert entry requirements for each of your courses along with the specific subject requirements for each course.
NUI colleges and DIT offer a compensation rule. They may accept a higher E as meeting one of the four passes required for general matriculation purposes.
You need to check the colleges website or speak with someone in admissions.
Get back on if needs be. Also please see posts above regarding similar queries.
Hi, I got over 500 points but not enough for my Top 3 choices. What are the chances of getting my 4th or 5th choice on CAO ?
First of all we don't know what the points are for your top 3 choices yet, you are probably working off last years points but remember these can fluctuate both up and down, so nothing is definite yet in relation to your top three courses.
In relation to your 10 choices on your CAO form, remember the CAO will work out which of the 10 courses you are entitled to, based on your subjects and grades for matriculation and then your points. If for example you are entitled to 5 of your choices then the CAO will offer you your highest course that you are entitled to. So if you are not entitled to your first three courses then you may very well be entitled to your fourth or fifth and you will be offered the highest one. At this stage it is very difficult to tell what you will be offered. It's a waiting game until Monday I'm afraid.
My sister got 410 points today and is happy enough but she would like to view one of her papers. She is playing in a rugby completion in England from 1st to 4th September, can someone else view the paper for her or does she have to be there?
She has to be there. No one else can view it on her behalf. She can apply for a recheck without viewing her script. This service costs €40 and will be refunded if she is successful with being granted an upgrade.
Remember that there are deadlines for getting your appeal application in by.The best of luck.
Do you think 505 points is enough to get into Computer Science UCD this year?
No one will know for definite until Monday. The demand for technology courses has seen an increase for CAO 2016. However, we do not know the points of interested candidiates and therefore cannot perdict whether 2016 points will rise or fall.
Please see posts above relating to similiar topic.
Hi there, I'm reapplying through CAO this year, I'm 60 points short for Business in UL! I have the dare programme , think I have a very low chance getting it? Really nervous
The DARE programme may give you a point reduction. Each institution has it own rules and regulations regarding the HEAR and DARE scheme. For the majority of institutions the maximum point reduction is sixty points. Whether you get offered a place will also depend on the number of DARE places being made available on this course and then the points achieved by the other DARE students that are also competeing for a place under the DARE scheme.
I hope that this is clear enough. The very best of luck.
Is there any way of findng out if demand for Film Studies and Italian in Trinity College Dublin went up this year in CAO? I saw figures fro Engineering etc. but not for specific Arts degrees in Trinity
That information is not available to me. The CAO is the only place that would have such information. They will not give this out upon request. I and everyone else will have to wait until Monday.
I moved arts up to my 4th choice before CAO closed in July. I think I may be short on my higher Choices but know I have enough for my 5th choice. Would I be offered arts above it and is there any way I could be offered my 5th choice ?
You will be offered the highest up course that you have met the sufficient points and entry requirements for. If you meet all the requirements for your fourth choice then you will be offerd a place on that course. You will not be offered your fifth choice in the first round or in any later rounds.
hi my son 525 and he wants to go either ucd science or trinity science. last year ucd got 510 and trinity got 505 last year. just i need to know your opinion cheers
The demand for 2016 Science courses has increased slightly. However, 2016 points will be determined by many factors such as the demand for the course, the points achieved by those demanding this course and teh number of places made available for this course. No one will know for definite until Monday. Please see the response to earlier posts.
Well done on such a great result.
My daughter got 425 points but only an E in HL Maths, does the new system (2017) mean that she defers her college application until next year when an E will count as a pass, or should she repeat Maths in the meantime?
Generally speaking a HE in Maths this year will not lead to matriculation will prevent students from being offered places on certain courses. Next year this HE will be converted to a H7 and this will be accepted for matriculation purposes and will attracted 37 points. If your daughter has not matriculated for her courses because of her HE in Maths this year, then presumably she is not going to get offers for these courses and will not be in a position to defer places. She essentially would have to make a new application next year using her results from this year and next year the HE will be converted to a H7 and will allow her to matriculate.
Hello, I repeated the leaving cert and got 495 this time around, however got 505 the first attempt. Will last years results be taken for this years CAO?
CAO will choose last years results automatically. They will always take the Leaving Cert sitting that scored the highest points.
The best of luck.
Do you think 530 points for Theoretical Physics at Trinity will be enough for a DARE place? Second choice was 515 points last year so I'm assuming that would be enough for an outright offer without taking DARE into account!
No one knows for deifinite until Monday. Please see earlier posts.
Do you think Business in UL might increase drastically this year? Also could you get offered course during second round offers
The demand for Business courses has increased in 2016. However, other factors influence the 2016 points. Please see similar posts from earlier.
is there any indication as to whether economics courses (not with business) will rise this year?
We are not privy to such data. Please see similar posts from earlier.
The best of luck.
My daughter has applied through CAO but doesn't get her A level results till tomorrow. Do CAO contact her please as with the leaving cert applicants? Secondly do you happen to know the point equivalent for A levels and English at TCD please?
Yes, your daughter will be treated the same as Leaving Certificate applicants in terms of contact re offers. The first round of offers will be available next Monday on the CAO website from 6am and will be issued by post, email and SMS.
If you follow this link you will have all the details for the A Level scoring system in TCD.
my son got 375 points the science subjects brought down the mark passed honours irish and honours maths. wanted to do science in UCD Trinity or Maynooth what are his options now what should he be looking at? worried
You need to check the entry requirements for each of his Science courses. See do each have a specific subject requirement/ grade.
Has he applied for a level 6/7 that would allow progression into a level 8? Check to see if he satisfies these requirements also. You will find this information on each of the colleges website or you can contact their admissions office.
Please get back on if you need anymore guidance. The best of luck.
Business and Law in UCC is a new course. Law at the moment in UCC is 495 points. Do you have any idea what B&L will be ?
I don't as I don't have access to the needed data such as the numbers of candidiates interested in this course and their points as well as the number of places available on this course. The college admission officers work with the CAO applicantions and will make 2016 points available next Monday.
My daughter got 455 and her first preference is TSM in art history and French at Trinity.last year's points were 440. Wondering what you think her chances are of being offered a place at Trinity in either round are?
Just looking at the history of points for this course over the past few years: 2015 440, 2014 435, 2013 480 and 2012 465, it is hard to know, it is quite up and down and there is no obvious pattern. It's just a wait and see situation I'm afraid.
19yr old son did not apply himself last year(L.C '15), is alarmingly immature, resists any advice, left a PLC Science course before taking up a job to fund an inter-railing holiday as he doesnt know what he wants to do..What now?
A post earlier goes through all options outside of CAO. Please view this.
Students should enter a course or an area of work that they are interested in. It sounds like your son doesn't know what area or disicipline he enjoys or doesn't enjoy. I suggest that this be looked at in more detail before you look at courses. Once you identify his interests and aptitude you can then look at suitable courses and levels.
Also, remember that he can go to college as a mature student at the age of 23.
Get back on if you need more guidance.
My son got required points for level 8 course but didn't get 2 X C3 in higher papers. Will he still be offered a place?
Unfortunately not. You must meet the entry requirements along with the necessary points.
These are the entry requirements for all level 8 courses. He may still be offered courses from his list of level 6/7.
Please get back on if you need further guidance.
Business and Law in UCC is a new course. Law at the moment in UCC is 495 points. Do you have any idea what B&L will be ?
We don't have the information to make any sort of perdiction. Please see earlier post on similiar topic.
My son got 450 points. He has applied to St Pats for primary teaching which he won't get He has also applied to Aberdeen University... He got a conditional offer from them pending his leaving results. Does he have enough for them to make an offer.
It very much depends on the offer he got from Aberdeen. Generally he would have been made a conditional offer, requiring certain grades in the LC and certain subjects. If he met the conditions of the offer then his place will be confirmed. If he is slightly off the conditions it may be no harm ringing Aberdeen to seek their advice.
hi my son got 480.do you think he has chance of sport and exercise science in university limerick
It will depend on the demand from interested candidiates and their CAO points as well as the supply of places on this course. We do not have this information. We all will have to wai until Monday. Please see earlier posts regarding this topic.
Will the high rate of fails in both levels of maths this year affect how next years maths paper will be written and marked?
This is a very difficult question to answer. Certainly this years Maths papers and the results of them will I'm sure be reviewed and the results may feed into the process next year, but to what extent who knows.
Hi, My daughter got 330 points. She is hoping to study Liberal Arts in Mary Immaculate College. Points for this course were 335 last year. What do you think of her chances of getting in? She is also a DARE applicant. Regards & thanks.
Points can go up or down. The factors that influence the cut off points for courses have been explained in earlier posts.
I would be confident that she will be offered a place but it really will depend on many factors (mentioned above) including the number of DARE applicants that have expressed an interest for this course, their points and the number of DARE places available on this course. I do not have the necessary data to form a proper judgement. Unfortunately, we have to wait until Monady.
any idea points for business and lay ucd it was 530 last year?
Please see earlier posts on this topic.
I got 435 points in my leaving cert 10 points short of General Nursing in UCC. Do you think the points will drop for this year as I need 440.
Do you think points for nursing will jump this year?I've just only scrapped the points for UCC General nursing and I'm really worried?.
Based on reports from the CAO applications for nursing are up this year and this would lead us to believe that the points may rise, but to what extent and in what particular areas of nursing no one really knows yet. Last year in UCC general nursing was 440, You got 435, so it may be very tight, you may have to rely on lower preferences, but unfortunately you will just have to wait until Monday to find out for sure.
Has there been a significant increase in demand for childrens and general nursing UCD? Last years points range was 490-550 and I got 515, is it likely that I will have sufficient points?
CAO applications for nursing courses 2015/16 have increased by 9%. This figure has not be broken down into areas within nursing.
No one will know for definite until Monday. Please see earlier posts that explain the factors that influence CAO points.
My daughter got 330 points, based on previous years do you think she has any chance of getting arts in UCD which is her first choice.
CAO has seen a fall in demand for Arts courses this academic year. However, this is only one factor that plays a role in detremining cut off points. Obvioulsy point go up and down. Please see earlier posts. All the factors that influence cut off points are variable. These varible factors (such as the demand or the points achieved by those demanding places) change each year causing point to change. We do not have access to such data.
I hope that all works out.
I got 425. I wanted Social Science in UCC and it's 435. Is there a chance the points will go down?
Based on applicant statistics from the CAO website it is showing the number of applicants in the Arts / Social Science area down slightly by around 3% but what this means for individual courses is impossible to say, but at least it is in the right direction for you. Best of luck on Monday.
14:27What is a Pass LC? PLCs require it for e.g. Nursing Studies. If someone fails Maths, could they still do a course like this? Or are they locked out of all courses? Thank you
Colleges of Further Education and courses within them tend to vary. I recommend that you contact the college of interest to you.
Hi my son get 430 points and want to get into ComputerApplications in DCU. The points last year were 400, however the analysis is that the technology courses are set to increase. Have you a view on how much they may go up??
Please see earlier posts relating to similar topic.
Get back on to us if you need more guidance.
I got information from UL that dare applicants last year got offered business in UL at 285 points during second round offers how is that possible?
I question how accurate that is. I recommend that you contact UL admissions office to get clarity on this.
I accepted a CAO course last year however within that same week, I contacted the college to decline it. Will I have to pay full tuition fees If I take up a course this year- even though I have never actually registered with a college? Thank you.
No. You have not registered and attended a previous course so therefore you have not used your first year tuition fees allotment from the government.
Is it the case that no points are awarded for passing foundation maths?
No points are awarded for any grade below a B2 on a foundation paper. Therefore, no points would be awarded for a pass.
My daughter got 420 points and wishes to view her scripts. There are 3 allocated sessions for viewing.One on Friday 2nd Sept and 2 on Saturday 3rd.She has a county final match on the 3rd.Can she ask to view the scripts specifically on the Friday?
I would advise you to contact the school as soon as possible and request a Friday slot. I would be confident that you will be facilitated.
If I were to defer one of my course offers and do a PLC course would I be able to drop that place if I got a place in my top course choice through fetac?
You will be making a CAO application next year while doing a FETAC course. If you add new courses to your 2016/17 application other than your deferred course then you will lose your deferral rights.
Get back on if you need more guidance.
Do you think the entry requirements for home economics and Irish teaching in St. Angela's will go up this year.
The entry requirements fro 2015/2016 will not change for CAO applicants for 2015/16.
Higher Education Institutions have not yet released their entry requirements for 2016/17.
14:49Hi , I was just wondering how does second round offers in the CAO work? Bit confused
You will be offered the highest course on your list that you satisfy the minimum entry requirements and CAO points for. If you get the points and meet all the requirements that is needed for your first choice then this is the course that you will be offered. Once this is offered all courses below it become obsolete.
However, let's suppose you don't satisfy all the requirements for your first-course preference; you will get offered the next course that you meet all the requirements for. This could be choice number three. This happens in round one.
When all the replies come back to CAO from the applicants and are processed then the next round begins - usually about a week after the first round offers. The CAO will look at the courses above the one you have already been offered to see if you are now entitled to a higher preference place. If you are you will be offered it in round two. Hence you can move up your preference list in sucessive rounds but never down.
Given the huge increase in failures in Ordinary Level Maths is there a possibility that some L6/L7 offers will be made to students with an E grade?
No I wouldn't think so. Entry requirements are fixed each year by the colleges and cannot be changed.
How big was the increase in law applicants ?
Law applications for 2015/16 has increased by 6%. More detailed statistics can be found on www.cao.ie under media and statistics.
Hi,do you have any idea what the points requirement for business direct entry TCD will be this year?
I'm afraid not. The demand for CAO business courses 2015/16 has increased by 5%. Other factors influence points. Please see earlier post regarding this topic.
My daughter achieved 465 points..she is hoping to study business studies in DCU,last year points were 465,would you say she has a good chance of obtaining a place? If you accept a place in round 1,is it possible to get a round 2 offer?
Courses in the Admin / Business area have had a jump in applicant numbers in the region of 4/5% this year, but we have no way of knowing what exact effect this will have on specific courses including DCU Business Studies. There is a chance that the points for this course could go up slightly but you will have to wait until Monday to know definitively.
If you get offered a place in round one, you will stay in the running for a higher preference place and be offered it in round 2 if you become entitled to it. Eg if you get offered your 5th preference course in round one, then everything below this is wiped from your file and you will remain in the running for courses from your 4th preference up.
My son got 560 and had med 1st & 2nd choice , he will probably get biomedical sc. 3rd choice, is this course a good way of transferring into med after 1st year . What are the requirements
I am not aware that such a transfer exists. I would advise you to contact the admissions office of the higher education in question.
My son got 425 but wanted sports science in Limerick with second choice of science and nutrition. Any advice?
The 2016 points will not be known until Monday. Don't lose hope yet. My advice would be for your son to research all likely courses and the modules studied on each programme, the course structure etc. He will then be able to see if he is interested in the course or not and make more of an informed decision.
Please get back on if you need more guidance.
My son got 520 points and wants common entry actuary in DCU. Last year it was 500. Do you think he will be ok
The applicant number in that area has fallen by 1%. However, more information is needed to make an informed decision. Please see earlier posts regarding this topic.
Business/Admin course application are said to have increased by 5% and Arts/Social science fallen by 1%. Are economics courses grouped with arts or business ?
Economic courses fall under Business/Administration.
The best of luck.
I got a lot worse than expected and have got nothing on my cao that will meet my requirements. Is it possible to reaply for a course?
Unfortunately, you cannot change your application to the CAO since July 1st. The only way you can add a new course to your CAO account is if the course is in the CAO 's Vacant Places list of courses, see here. If you look at an earlier post today we went through a list of other options that might be available to your. Have a look at this and see if there is something there that might meet your needs.
I am eligible for both HEAR and DARE does this mean I will be prioritised for my course over just hear or just dare students?
Yes, research has identified that students with disabilities from disadvantaged backgrounds face considerable challenges in terms of their chances of progressing to higher education in Ireland. In order to increase the number of students facing the ‘double disadvantage’ of poverty and disability, DARE and HEAR colleges have agreed to prioritise applicants eligible for both DARE and HEAR when allocating reduced points places. Applicants eligible for both schemes can only be prioritised where they have met all the admissions criteria for consideration.
I qualify for DARE, if I get a reduced points offer which round would that be in .
Depending on where this course is on your list of preferences, you could be offerd it at round one. If unsuccessful in round one you could be successful in round 2 offers and so on.
Please get back on if you need more guidance.
Is 2Hon Cs an 'absolute' must have for Arts in UCD ? I have 1C and a a D1. could I get compensation with DARE as I will likely have enough points or am I absolutely blocked by not having 2 Cs ?
You must meet the minimum entry requirements. Failure to meet such requirements will result in no offer being made.
Remember and review all other options.
If you do not receive any course offers in rounds 1 and 2 what are your options? Is it too late to apply for a plc? if there available spaces on other courses I qualify for but haven't applied for can I take up a place on any of these courses?
Offers will be made up until October 19th.
Many Colleges of Further Education have been accepting applicantions and conducting interviews since January, however, the majority of them do not have specific closing dates and will consider applicants until the course has been filled.
You can apply for courses that appear on CAO Available Places once you meet the requirements. A list of these courses with vacancies will apppear on the CAO website in the coming days.
The best of luck.
My son has both hear and dare and applied for medicine in NUIG. He got 490 in the leaving cert and 145 in the hpat is it likely that he will get an offer?
The cut off last year was #723* and your son is on 635 without DARE and HEAR. I would suggest you ring the admissions office in NUIG or email them and put this question to them. They don't seem to have information on their website as to how they are allocating these places based on a quick search I just carried out. So give them a ring and seek their advice. Best of luck.
I have failed Ordinary Maths (E grade). Can I repeat Maths while taking a PLC course?
Yes, this is a very common way of dealing with this issue. It can depend on the PLC course you are hoping to do to an extent. If there is an explicit requirement to have a pass in maths to do the PLC you could run in to trouble, however many many PLC courses will admit students on this basis and then students independently repeat their Maths.
Not sure if last comment went through. If you don't get any offers in rounds 1 and 2 is it too late to apply for a plc. If I didn't apply for a course but a place is available and I meet the requirements can I apply after round 2 ?
Hi, please look at earlier post that may answer your question.
I got an E in maths, I'm going to get it appealed. It would take weeks until if I get a D3. I can't start college until I sit a maths exam and pass. But If I start a course I didn't want and I get my maths up to a D3 for a different coursewhatdoido?
If you then (a successful appeal) meet the minimum entry requirements, the necessary points and specific subject requirements (if any) the Higher Education Institution in question must make you an offer or allow for you to defer your place for the following academic year.
Hi, my daughter got 370 and her first choice course was 350 last year,.Her concern is that there are only 15 places available and that people with higher points than her who also have it as their first choice will be offered it first. Many thanks
All the people who apply for a course are listed in order of their points, person with the highest points for a course at the top and the person with the lowest points at the bottom. In your daughters course, the top 15 people will be elligible for an offer regardless of the position of the course on their preferential list. If the course is the highest one they are entitled to they will be offered it. If all accept then there will be no more offers for this course in round two.
My daughter got 466, accepted on hear scheme, wants science in either UCD or Trinity, any idea of her chances?
In this instance I wouold give the admissions office or access office in both colleges and put your daughters case to them. They might at the very least be able to give you information on the proceedures they follow in allocating places and this might give you an indication of your daughters chances.
Where can I find stats on number of HEAR applications to medicine and science, these are on my sons CAO and he qualifies through HEAR
I would advise you to contact the Access office of the Higher Education Institution in question.
My daughter got 585 points plus 184 in the HPAT so 741 adjusted points . She has TCD medicine as her first choice. The points were 733 last year. Do you think the requirement will rise this year ? Thank you.
In the applicant statistics from CAO the number of applicants in the Human Medicine category has droped by 2% from last year. This would generally indicate that courses in this area are not going to rise but we don't know definitively what the effect of these stats will be on individual courses. However, I think your daughter is in a very good position.
I got 450 points. I got a C1 in Maths(missed my first choice of teaching tech graph in UL). My second choice was Architecture in UL. I submitted my portfolio for Architecture and it was accepted. Will I still get offered a place in architecture?
You must meet the minimum entry requirements, specific subject requirements and the 2016 cut off points. If you meet all of the above then you will receive a course offer.
No one knows the points for 2016 CAO courses until Monday.
Hi, if you get papers rechecked and you find your grades increase, can you use the revised points for 2016 entry into college? I would have thought October is too late to enter into a course
If your appeal is successful and you then meet all requiremenst and points, the institution(University or IT etc) will offer you a place on this course. It is your decision as to whether you wish to stay at the course you are currently on, move to the new course (providing that there is space) or defer this new offer until the next academic year.
Hope that this is clear enough.
I got 500 points and have applied for Physiotherapy which was 560 in UL and 545 in UCD last year. I have also applied for Speech and Language Therapy, 510 last year. Any idea on how the points may go for these courses?
Please see posts from earlier covering this topic.
16:15Hi! When will the stats be released ?
Take a look at the following link:
www.cao.ie under the heading Media and Statistics.
My failed ordinary maths. If request recheck and another examiner days that instead of getting an E they would mark it as an F. Can he still keep the E?
No, his new grade would over shadow his original E grade.
Hi. My son got 560 points and 165 in HPAT. Therefore it seems unlikely that he will be offered medicine, unless points drop. If he repeats the HPAT next year can he add it to this years leaving cert.?
Yes, he can resit the HPAT next year, hope to do better in it and add the score to this years' LC results.
Hi. My son got 505 points and applied to do Business & Law, then law & French in UCD. Is there any indication pf number of applicants for this course in 2016/17?
We are not privy to this information yet. The number of applicants alone wouldn't be enough information alone to allow one to make a prediction. 2016 points will be influenced by the points achieved by this years applicants.
It's looks like my daughter won't have enough points for her first choice. Will she be offered her second choice on Monday?
The system will look at your daughter's 10 choices and determine which of them she is entitled to based on her points. Then it will offer her the highest of these courses. If your daughters highest preference that she is entitled to is her 2nd preference then she will be offered this in round one. Everything below this will then disappear from her file. She will remain in the running however for her first preference in successive rounds.
i got 250 points would that get me into collage ?
You will get a CAO course offer if you satisfy the entry requirements, subject specific requirements and the 2016 cut off points for the course.
In order to recieve a CAO offer you must be a CAO applicant.
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My daughter got 520 points & wants to do biomedical engineering in Galway. The points in 2015 were 485. Is she in with a chance?
I would have to say yes I think your daughter has a very good chance here. This course has risen steadily in points over the past few years and I would be surprised if it climbed to 520. 2013 - 405, 2014 - 420.
If I don't want to take my first choice (which I have the points for) can I decline and will I be offered my second choice ?
No. If you look at some earlier posts we refer to this. You can hope to move up your list of preferences but not down. If you are offered your first preference everything below that disappears and hence you are not going to be offered anything else.
Hi, got 445 points today and passed higher maths. Got all requirments for Computer Science in NUIG. Points last year were 440. I also have the HEAR scheme? Should that be enough if points rise?
I would be confident but no one will know for sure until Monday.
Needed 526 or so for psychology but got 455 is there any other routes re detached etc rather than repeating the leaving.
Some Psychology courses were under 455 points last year. No one will know the points for 2016 until Monday. Many third level institutions accept FETAC applicants onto their Psychology courses. You should investigate this route and also look at the institutions that offered Psychology courses below 455.
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Hi, I got an E in higher maths , so cannot get my course in TCD. If I accept a course at another college & do first year there, can I still reaply to cao next year when my HIgher E will be ok for matriculation to TCD & change course then? Thanks.
Yes. The HE is moving to a H7 and will be recognised as a pass for matriculation purposes. However you will have lost your first year allocation of "free tuition fees" and hence will have to pay the tuition fees in your new course in first year - total fees could be in the region of 6 or 7 thousand euro in your new course in first year.
What if you get 300 points and you need 70 more for the required course. Will HEAR give a reduction of 70 points?
I would advise you to contact the Access office of the institution that you wish to attend. Many colleges participating in the DARE scheme have different requirements and process.
The best of luck.
Hi I got 505 points today. I have B&L in UCD, Law and History in UCD, Commerce International in UCD and B&L in UCC. Should I be concerned about not getting anything in my top 4?
You could be in trouble with the top three as the points indicators from last year are higher than your 505. I think you may have a stronger chance in UCC on your number four preference.
I have specified Economics and Sociology as my choice for the two subject moderatorship in TCD. Got 470 today and believe this is not enough to do economics. Can I change my subject choice? Same question re doing Arts in UCD!
In relation to TCD there is a separate CAO code (and points cut off) for each combination of subjects and you cannot change these codes as of July 1st. In UCD there is one CAO code ( and one points cut off)for Arts and then you specify your subjects within this. UCD may allow you to change your subject choices when you get onto the course but this will not be related to points.
Hi, I want to view a number of my scripts. Can I have a subject teacher for each one present or is it just me one teacher of one subject allowed!? Thank you.
Yes, you can have a subject teacher present for each subject if all teachers are available.
My son got 580 points. His first preference is quantitative business in ucd which was 590 last year. His 2 nd preference is law & French in TCD, this required 570 last year. What do you think his chances of getting his 2nd choice are?
I would be inclined to suggest that your son is in a comfortable position for the Law and French course in TCD on 580, although as you are aware there is no way of knowing for definite. I would be highly surprised if this course went above 580. Best of luck.
I received 480 points in my leaving cert today. The course I want to do, sports and exercise science in UL, was 485, do you think I'll have enough points, keeping in mind I'll be going through the hear route? My guidance councillor thinks I'll be ok?
I would be confident but it really will depend on the other HEAR competitors and their points. You will be competing against these candidates for a limited number of HEAR places. I obviously don't know their points and therefore, cannot give you a definite answer. I would be hopeful though.
The very best of luck.
390 points achieved today & have met the minimum requirements for arts in ucd, does the particular subject choice within art degree affect the chances for entry?
No. UCD offer a one point cut off for Arts regardless of your subject choice. I would be confident that you will get this offer.
18:16That's all for today, thanks for tuning in. Our guidance counsellors Brian Howard and Deirdre Garrett will be back at 9am tomorrow.
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