Results 2017 Helpdesk

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Brian Howard, Deirdre Garrett Wed, Aug 16
 
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  • 09:12
    Good morning everyone, and welcome to the Leaving Cert helpdesk. Our expert guidance counsellors Brian Howard and Deirdre Garrett will be here until 6 to answer any questions you may have today regarding your results, the CAO, or anything else. Just click on 'Contact Us' to submit your question. In the meantime check www.irishtimes.com/results2017 for information about college life, exam results analysis, and more.
  • 09:58
  • 10:26
    Any early indication if the new points system will see a drop in points for college places as was predicted under the new method? Or is the points race expected to continue based on this years results?

    Unfortunately there is no definitive answer to this question; everybody is eagerly awaiting the impact of the new grading system on the points for courses. There will be changes to the points for courses without doubt, but how these changes impact will be different for different courses. The reason for this is because of micro issues around entry requirements, random selection, etc. The points race will continue but hopefully not at the same pace as previously.
  • 10:35
    Are you having trouble calculating your points? Peter McGuire explains here  how to understand the new points system, while Carl O'Brien also has an explainer how on the  new grading system works here.
  • 10:51

    Hi, just a quick query can I view the percentage marks of my papers ??Thanks

    Yes, once you apply to view your scripts through the normal channels you will be able to see your full script and how it was marked.   Your percentage marks will be there for you to see.

  • 11:05
    My daughter was accepted onto DARE Scheme, her results weren't what she expected, she wants to know if she can opt not to take DARE now & accept a course lower down on her CAO choices. Do you know if this can be done?

    You cannot opt out of the DARE scheme once deemed eligible. Hopefully, your daughter will receive an offer on Monday. She may receive a course offer above this in future rounds but never a course that lies below Monday's offer. Best wishes.
  • 11:15

    If I get rechecks and my marks go up, will I have to begin a course that is lower on my CAO and then switch?


    The results of the rechecks are available mid October.   By this time you may have already been offered a course and have started it.   If in October as a result of rechecks your grades and subsequently your points increase and you are now entitled to a higher preference course then there are two possible scenarios. The first is where your new course has space for you in October and if you wish you can transfer onto that course there and then. In the second scenario your new course is full and there is no space for you in October. In this case the college must offer you a deferred place on that course for the following academic year.

  • 11:19

    Do people who have something as first choice get preference over those who have the same course as their second choice even if they both get the points?

    CAO will make an offer to those who meet the minimum entry requirements and have the necessary cut off point. Those who have it as their first choice will then receive an offer.

    For all courses, applicants are put into an order of merit list to determine their entitlement for a course.   The CAO system will offer  candidates their highest preference in which they're entitled to.

  • 11:22

    On Monday, if you accept a first round offer, will you get offered any places in the second round? Also, if you get exams rechecked and say, go up 22 points and achieve the requirements for a course that you initially missed, will it be too late?

    On Monday if you get offered a place, then in the second round you could be offered another place, but only if it is above the course offered to you in round one.   In other words you can only move up your list of preferences in successive rounds not down.   Have a look at the earlier post about rechecks and the scenarios possible.

  • 11:29

    I didn’t get a H5 in Irish but got the points for the course I need, how do I go about repeating Irish and still doing the course?


    CAO will offer one a course if they have met the minimum entry requirements and then the cut off points for that particular course.


    You need to check the entry requirements for this particular course. You will find this on the HEI website or CAO.  No course offer will be made if the minimum entry requirements have not been  met.


    However, you can repeat Irish for the academic year 2017/18. You can combine your new 2017/18 grade with 2017 points. New grades can be used for matriculation purposes only.

  • 11:35

    My son completed his leaving cert last year under the old grade system. He has re applied to the CAP this year for medicine after repeating the HPAT for medicine. Will his points that he got last year change 535 be recalculated under the new system?

    Yes, if he goes to the CAO website and uses the Points Calculator indicating he did his Leaving Certificate in 2016 he will be able to determine what his points are under the new system using his grades from   2016.

     

  • 11:35

    Is there any indication of the average points may have dropped nationally with the new grade bands, as from taking to one teacher in a school they say there is significant reduction in the average for their school average.

    The points cut-off in any given year depends on the volume of applicants for that year, the number of places that the college make available and the examination performance of the applicants in that year. Obviously a change in any of  the above  will have an effect on points. That data is not yet will not yet  available to the public. We will have to wait until Monday.

  • 11:37

    Hi there, higher maths is not in my top 6 grades but is my top 6 points if I include the bonus 25, I'm just wondering do I count my 6 best subjects then add on the 25 or do I have to count the entire maths as one of my 6?

    You must count the entire maths as one of your six in order to be able to include the bonus points. Best wishes.

  • 11:45

    Many people are not getting their required points does that mean the entry points could decrease?

    When you say many people are not getting their required points I assume you mean last year's required points for courses.   I suppose the big question that everyone is waiting to see is  the effect of the new grading and points system on  this years cut off points for courses.  Unfortunately more than any year trying to judge what is going to happen is very difficult, if not impossible.   Some courses may decrease in points but others may go up.   It's really a wait and see scenario.

     

  • 11:46

    My daughter got accepted in the DARE & HEAR scheme and breaking the mound for Sligo it and she didn't get the points she was anticipating, through these schemes what is the likelihood that she is still eligible to get into the course?

    It will depend on a number of factors. The volume of HEAR and DARE places on each  progarmme in each institution can vary. Also the examination performance of other HEAR and DARE applicants can vary each year. You must ensure that she has met the minimum entry requirements. If this is so she is still eligible for a place but nobody will know the outcome of this until Monday.

  • 11:49

    My daughter got 440. First choice is Bachelor of Education which was from 460 last year. Do you think there is any possibility under new point system


    You cannot compare last years cut off points to this year. You are using two different measurements in effect. You are not comparing like with like. We will have to wait and see. Offers are out on Monday.

  • 11:55

    Hi, I got an E grade in last year's higher level maths. Under the new system, do I benefit from the additional marks on offer for scoring between 30 and 39 per cent? And would I also be eligible for the 25 bonus points? Many thanks.


    Yes you will now benefit from the additional marks. However,  one must receive a H6 or higher in order to benefit from the 25 bonus points. Those who score below a H6 are not deemed eligible for the use of bonus points.

  • 12:02

    On Monday, my nephew expects to have enough points to be offered his second choice. However, he would now prefer a place on his third choice course. How would he go about getting his third choice course?

    If your nephew is offered his second choice on Monday he will no longer ( throughout CAO 2017 process) be in the race for any courses that fall below Monday's offer. He had until July 1st to ensure that he was happy with his order of preference. No changes can be made now.

     

    Once an offer is made all course choices that  fall below this offer become obsolete. A candidate may be offered courses that lie above their original offer in round one in future rounds. I hope that this is clear enough. Best wishes.

  • 12:09

    Hey, I am a DARE applicant for CAO 2017. In UCC they require candidates to meet the entry requirements (which I did), and get at least 85% of the LC points required. How does this work for DARE candidates applying for Medicine in UCC?

    The same requirements apply to Medicine at UCC. You are calculating 85% of a combined score ( HPAT + LC points).

  • 12:11

    I'm 40 points short for my chosen subject in UL, is there away around it without repeating secondary ? Course in question would be product design Thank you

    I assume you are talking about being 40 points short of last years cut off points 435?   You may not be short this year under the new system.   However, if you are short, it doesn't look like this course has a FETAC link to a PLC course so it appears the only way onto the course is through the LC and so for you it looks as if the only way to try get a place would be to repeat the LC and hope to meet the points requirement.   There are other Product Design courses available such as in Carlow IT and Maynooth which have a FETAC link which you may consider applying to, thus allowing you to complete a PLC course in this area rather than repeating.   It might be no harm giving UL a ring on
    Tel: 00 353 61 202015 to see what they have to say.

  • 12:31

    I only have enough for one of my lowest choices will I still be offered this.


    Cut off points vary every year. Check to see that you meet course requirements. Nobody can predict the cut off points for this year. We will all have to wait until Monday. 2017 course cut off points will be issued in the Irish Times. Best of luck.

  • 12:33

    What is the range of additional points for Dare. My son is 30 points below his course but hopes Dare will bring him up.


    There is no simple answer for this as the range can be quite large and there can be inbuilt conditions to be met depending on what college you are referring to.   A useful place to get more information is www.accesscollege.ie.   Visit the college you are concerned about and see what their policy is, as each college can be quite different.   A number of factors which need to be taken into account generally include:


    The overall number of places on the course


    The number of reduced points DARE places on the course


    The number of DARE eligible applicants competing for these reduced points places.

  • 12:42

    I got 505 points in 2016 (509 with the new points system) and have applied for Occupational Therapy this year which was 510 last year, am I likely to get it?

    This will not be known until Monday. Points in any given year will depend on the volume of applicants for that year, the number of college places available on that course, the examination performance of those who have expressed an interest. Unfortunately, we don't have access to this information. The best of luck.

  • 12:47

    Hi my daughter got enough points for her course but not the required FL2 in foundation maths she got an FL3. Could she still get offered her chosen course? Social care in AIT. Should we get her maths paper rechecked?

    As it stands she will not get an offer of a place as she has not met the entry requirements and unfortunately these  are non negotiable.   Getting the maths rechecked is an option.   I would advise  getting your daughter to view her maths script with her maths teacher  if possible and  then decide is it worth getting the paper rechecked.  

  • 13:09

    Hi my daughter has gotten 467 points in her leaving cert and is upset because she wanted to study law in Trinity. What are her chances? Thanking you in advance.


    The new points and grading  system means that we are not comparing like with like. It makes it too difficult to preempt 2017 cut off points.

  • 14:05

    My daughter wants to do Quantity Surveying in DIT but may not have got the necessary points. Can you recommend the best PLC course to do as a stepping stone towards gaining entry in 2018? Many thanks

    You should look into a PLC course in construction technology. The course code is 5m5010. You may need a certain number of distinctions at  PLC level to be eligible to  progress into DIT. I recommend that you contact the admissions office at DIT. The best of luck.

  • 14:14

    Interesting to see so many questions about CAO offers and not the actual leaving cert results. This 5 day delay needs to be addressed. System is putting students and parents under further unnecessary stress and anxiety. What is the view of the panel?


    Yes, these few days can be quite stressful for CAO applicants waiting to see what direction their points are going to bring them and this year more than ever, trying to judge where they will end up is a futile exercise given the significant changes that are afoot.   With modern technology one would imagine it might be possible to at least shorten these five days.   Allocating places is an onerous task for the admissions personnel and a number of factors have to be taken into consideration but there is definitely an argument that all of this could be speeded up to shorten the gap somewhat between results and offers.

  • 14:14

    My daughter got 498 points and is unlikely to get a CAO offer due to listing only medicine and pharmacy courses. What are her options? Is there an option of applying to UK? Thank you

    You are beyond the UCAS closing date. Colleges are not obliged to process your application. However, you can apply through the clearing system. This is a system that colleges go to if they have available spaces. Rembemer the medical colleges will insist on having completed the BMAT or UKCAT. The deadlines for these have now past.

    Many may study Science or another discipline at undergraduate level and continue on to study Pharmacy or Medicine at graduate level. Fees can be high. You would need to research this but it is definitely an option.

  • 14:17

    My son did not get the results for level 8 courses - is there a way to now submit for level 7 courses or is it too late.

    The last date to change your CAO application  is the 1st of July so unfortunately your son will not be able to add courses to his CAO application at this stage.   The only way he can apply for different courses to what is on his CAO currently, is to apply for any courses that appear on the vacant place list on the CAO website over the next few days.

  • 14:20

    If I accept my 2nd choice on the first round of offers will I not be able to accept my first choice if it becomes available in the 2nd round of offers?


    Whether you accept your 2nd choice or not in round one, you will still remain in the running for your 1st preference course in round two and if you become entitled to it you will be offered it regardless of whether you accepted your round one offer or not.

  • 14:23

    My son has 382 points in this year's LC. His course last year was 360. How do the points compare.


    We cannot compare as it's a different grading system and therefore, we are not comparing like with like. I don't have the necessary data to make an accurate prediction. We will have to wait until Monday. The best of luck. I would be feeling confident.


     

  • 14:24

    Our daughter has got the required results for a conditional offer in glasgow . Do we send results to them or do they receive them from Ireland? thanks


    The State Examinations Commission will send a copy of the Irish LC results to UCAS but just to be on the safe side I always advise students in your daughter's position to contact the UK college and supply their results to the college just in case for whatever reason they don't receive the results.

  • 14:30

    What has been the maximum points reduction available for chemical & biological science in UCC which was 480 points last year. UCD has a table outlining the maximum points reduction for previous years but I can't find anything similar for UCC.

    Not sure what you are refering to here, could you please elaborate?   Thanks

     

     

  • 14:32
    <p><strong>I got 589 in my leaving and 161 in the hpat, how many points is this for medicine? I have hear and dare so is it likely going on last year that I will get an offer for nuig</strong></p>
<p>No one will know for definite until the offers come out on Monday. Many factors influence the points. We do not have access to the necessary data.</p>
<p>You have a total ( HPAT + LC points) of 719.</p>
<p>Above is Table 3: Moderated Leaving Certificate points from 550 points</p>

    I got 589 in my leaving and 161 in the hpat, how many points is this for medicine? I have hear and dare so is it likely going on last year that I will get an offer for nuig

    No one will know for definite until the offers come out on Monday. Many factors influence the points. We do not have access to the necessary data.

    You have a total ( HPAT + LC points) of 719.

    Above is Table 3: Moderated Leaving Certificate points from 550 points

  • 14:32

    if I have enough points will I get my first choice level 8 as well as my first choice level 7 on Monday ?and then select my preference ?

    Yes.   If you are entitled to your first preference on both lists, you will be offered both of them and then you decide which one you wish to accept.

  • 14:32

    My son got 245 points and failed honours maths. He does not want to repeat his leaving at his present school. Can he repeat his leaving as an external candidate? Does he have to do all his subjects again?

    Many Higher Education Institutions will accept a H7 in Maths. You must check the minimum entry requirements for all courses listed on your CAO application.

    However, one can repeat maths and apply to an examination centre to resit this one subject. The exam centre can be at his old school or a centre near by. He does not have to repeat all other subjects. He can repeat just maths and use his new  maths  score for matriculation purposes.

  • 14:39

    My son got 388 points in his leaving cert today and hopes to do corporate Law in Galway 385 points do you think he will have a chance of an offer . Thank you

    Hi, he is certainly in the running but unfortunately as you will see from previous posts we have no way of knowing for sure as there are so many unknown variables.   Overall trend is for course points to go down somewhat, but by how much and for which courses it is hard to say.   Try to be patient and wait for the offers on Monday without drawing too many conclusions which could prove wrong.   Best of luck to him.

  • 14:40
    <p><strong>Hi, I have only medicine on my CAO from NUIG, I have been accepted for both hear and dare. I got 161 in my hpat and 589 in the leaving how likely is it that I will get an offer. Also with the points after 550, do they round up?, so 718 or 719</strong></p>
<p>Nobody will know the cut off points until Monday. I calculate your combined score to be 719. Please see table above.</p>

    Hi, I have only medicine on my CAO from NUIG, I have been accepted for both hear and dare. I got 161 in my hpat and 589 in the leaving how likely is it that I will get an offer. Also with the points after 550, do they round up?, so 718 or 719

    Nobody will know the cut off points until Monday. I calculate your combined score to be 719. Please see table above.

  • 14:41

    I'm a H1 student in English and always have been, but today I received a grade of H4. I was really happy with my exam and know that I did better than that. I've heard from many people that their English grades were lower than expected. Thoughts


    If you feel that your grade falls far below your expctation, then I would advise you to complete the document that is in the envelope with your results. You can request a review of the script in any subject at no cost. You have until Tuesday, August 22nd, to return the completed form to your principal.

  • 14:46

    My daughter obtained 419 points. She is hoping to do midwifery in NUIG which was 440 last year. I know there are predictions of points dropping - do you think 21 is a stretch? Is there a PLC that would be beneficial? Thanks

    Unfortunately, as with the other posts below, we just don't know for any one course if points will definitely drop and if so by how much.   You might feel 21 is  a stretch but it may not be we just know this year.   There is a FETAC route into nursing but it is a long shot.   There is a very limited number of places in Ireland on nursing degrees for PLC graduates.   At the moment PLC hopefuls have to have eight distinctions (full marks) in their PLC course and then enter a random selection pool to get a place.   If you go to www.qualifax.ie  and do a search of the PLC courses in your area you will find pre-nursing courses that will suit.

  • 14:54

    Hi - first time LC family here - great service! my daughter hoping for commercial modern music in DIT. Has a total of 800 points. Points last year were 750 but 850 in previous year (if I'm reading it right!) do points usually fluctuate this much?

    Not many courses fluctate by as much as the course above has. Commercial modern music points in 2014 were 850, 2015-860, 2016-750. The number of places available on this course has remained unchanged since 2014. This makes me believe that the examination performance of successful candidates was lower in 2016 causing points to drop. I wish you and your daughter the very best.

     

  • 14:59

    Any idea if demand for computer science & business in TCD has gone up. Was 505 last year, son got 509 and is getting worried

     

    Unfortunately, as with the other posts below, we just don't know for any one course if points will rise or fall.   I would be feeling confident.

  • 15:01

    My son received his results online but did not receive the form for requesting a recheck. He woulld like to have a recheck of one subject. Can he request. this online? Thank you very much.

    Yes, go to www.examinations.ie and follow the instructions provided on the online Appeal Payment Service.   When you have paid your appeal fee online you must print the form provided showing the subject(s)   which you have opted to appeal.   This must be returned to  your school or to the school where your scripts were available for viewing to be returned to the SEC.

  • 15:02

    My son received his results online today and therefore was not able to locate an appeals application letter. Can this form be filled out online?

    See previous post.

  • 15:11

    My brother didn't get enough points to the course he wanted - joint honours in Irish and Music in UCD. Is there any alternative way to get into this course, like a QQI/FETAC course and if so do you know which one? I think repeatings a waste of a year


    No one will know the 2017 cut off points until Monday. PLC courses can be another option. Take a look at the link below. Four different PLC courses can be done in order to gain entry into Arts in UCD via FETAC route. I would advise you to research the number of distinctions needed to be eligible for progression to UCD. Get back on if you need more assistance.


    http://www.cao.ie/index.php...

  • 15:13

    My daughter meets min requirement for her listed 8 courses on cao for nursing but may not have the points. Is there any other option for nursing in Ireland or an option of applying to UK at this stage. Thanks

    In Ireland at this stage there  are no nursing courses that she can apply to other than what is on her CAO form.   If she has not already done so she can apply to the UCAS system and apply for some nursing programmes there.   Even though the normal deadline has passed applications are still accepted for clearing places.   Look at the clearing section of www.ucas.com .

  • 15:27

    Recently heard about a general course that is run by NUIG for those who wished to attend but failed to meet the necessity points etc. And offers students the chance to gain entrance the following year! Do you know anything about this or how to apply?

    NUIG have an access course. It tends to cater for those from socio economic disadvantaged backgrounds and for those with disabilities. The Access office number is 091 493553. I would recommend for you to make contact with them. The best of luck.

  • 15:28

    Hi My daughter got 319 points today. Her first choice is DCU Music and RE which was 370 last year. The points are unlikely to drop sufficiently for her so her 2nd choice which is performing arts in UL. Any idea what the points might be for this one?

    Unfortunately, as you will see from previous posts we have no way of knowing for sure as there are so many unknown variables.   Overall trend is for course points to go down somewhat, but by how much and for which courses it is hard to say.   Try to be patient and wait for the offers on Monday without drawing too many conclusions which could prove wrong.   Best of luck to her.

  • 15:33

    My son has a combined score of 736. That would have secured Dublin Medicine in any recent year. 731 would have been sufficient in 2016. I know it's impossible to predict, but could you see points this year much exceeding previous years? Thanks.

    Overall trend is for course points to go down somewhat, but by how much and for which courses it is hard to say.  I would be feeling confident.  No one will know for definite until Monday. Congratulations and the best of luck to him.

  • 15:40

    Hello - my daughter got 387 points. She wants to do Mental Health Nursing in TCD - she meets the minimum entry requirements. Last year points were 375. Should she be confident of offer? Thank you.

    As much as I want to say that she seems to be safe enough, I am nervous doing so.   As you will see from all the other posts we really don't know what will be the impact of the new grading and points system on the points of individual courses.   Wrong conclusions could easily be drawn this year.   I'm afraid it's a waiting game to know definitively what she will be offered on Monday.   Hopefully she will get her offer.

  • 15:44

    My daughter got enough points for Level 8 in DIT but has fallen short in her pass Maths as she got O5 and O4 required. Does that automatically mean she will not be offered the course? thanks

    One must meet the minimum entry requirements and the cut off points before any offer can be made. Failure to meet either or will result in no offer being made  by CAO 2017.

  • 15:46

    You provide a great service . I want to endorse a previous note that this 5 days of waiting for CAO is surely needless in this IT age . This year more than any it would be great if the CAO or SEC could release comparative stats.

    Many thanks for your comments.

  • 16:02

    My son is eligible for DARE but did not get enough points for his first option based on historical reduced points info. If he does get a first round offer under the DARE programme is the likelihood of him getting a second round offer remote?

    If your son got offered his first course choice on  Monday, then, all courses below his first preference become obsolete. He will never be offered any other courses in round 2 and future rounds.  The best of luck.

  • 16:04

    My son wants to do Irish and Business in Thurles. Last year's points were 360 and he got 359 today! Is there a chance he will get his course?

    As much as I want to say that he seems to be safe enough, I am nervous doing so.   As you will see from all the other posts we really don't know what will be the impact of the new grading and points system on the points of individual courses.   Wrong conclusions could easily be drawn this year.   I'm afraid it's a waiting game to know definitively what he will be offered on Monday.   Hopefully he will get his offer.

     

     

  • 16:16

    Hi, would exam commission consider including a calculation of students CAO points on the results page. Thankful to have a very happy daughter today but saw many candidates worriedly calculating & recalculating points while trying to take results in

     

    The state examination have the responsibilty with the granting of grades. Points and entry to third level is the remit of CAO. Congratulations.

  • 16:28

    I did not do irish as a subject .i got an NUI exemption. Will irish be necessary to get into , occupational therapy in TCD

    You must meet minimum entry requirements and a subject requirement for this particular course.The minimum entry requirements for Occupational Therapy are as follows:

    Minimum Entry Requirements:

    Irish Leaving Certificate

    To be considered for admission to a degree course at the University you must:

    Present six subjects, three of which must be at grade 5 or above on higher Leaving Certificate papers or at least grade 5 in the University matriculation examination.

    The six subjects above must include:
    A pass in English.
    A pass in mathematics (or foundation-level mathematics and a pass in a language other than English
    OR
    A pass in Latin and a pass in a subject other than a language.

    Specific Subjects Required
    H4 In one of: Physics, Chemistry, Biology, Physics/ Chemistry or Agricultural Science

    You don't need Irish but you will need to have passed another language. I hope that this is clear enough for you. The best of luck.

  • 16:59

    This relates to an earlier question I posted on behalf of my daughter she has fallen short for chem & bio science in UCC (480 points last year) as she only got 396 however she is eligible for HEAR is there a chance she could get it ,

    No one will know for definite until Monday.

    I am eligible for HEAR but how will I know if I will be considered for a reduced points place?

    Being eligible for HEAR does not guarantee you a reduced points place. University College Cork reserves approximately 5% of School Leaver places for students applying under the HEAR Scheme.    

    To be considered for a reduced points HEAR place you must:

    • Be eligible for HEAR

    • Meet minimum entry requirements, from 2017, the minimum entry requirements will be two  H5 and  four  O6/H7 grades.   See UCC's Admission website for further details.    http://www.ucc.ie/en/study/undergrad/2017entry/

    • Meet any additional specific course requirements where they exist:  http://www.ucc.ie/en/study/undergrad/entryreqs/

    • Achieve a minimum of 300* points

    • Achieve at least 85% of the Leaving Certificate points required for the course.  

     Once these requirements have been met, University College Cork allocates the reduced points places to eligible applicants in order of points merit. If the University does not fill its quota of HEAR places with candidates who have achieved at least 85% of the cut-off points, consideration may be given to candidates on the wait list in order of points merit.

    *based on the pre-2017 Leaving Cert Points System  

    I hope that this will help. The best of luck.

  • 17:05

    I want to get a script checked but I am travelling to a Wedding in Italy that week, is there any way to allow my teacher to view the script, my teacher has agreed but she says the rules dicatate that I must be there. Can I appeal this rule ?

    I'm afraid not. I suggest that you choose to get it rechecked regardless as you are not around to review your script. There is a fee of €40 for this work but if teh paper is upgraded this will be refunded.

  • 17:19

    Hi, did I understand the 17.05 comment correctly, if you can not be available for the script viewing on Sept 1st/2nd, you can skip this, and just pay for a recheck?

    Contact your principal and ask for the appeals form. You don't have to view your scripts before appealing.

  • 17:22

    My son wants to do Spanish with Economics as a joint honours BA in UCD (DN500). The CAO lists last years points for DN500 in general but he thinks there are different points depending on the subject choices, is this grid available?

    DN500 carries the same points regardless of your subject choice. I hope that this answers your question. The best of luck.

  • 17:30

    My little brother wants to study Business Computing in DIT but only got 319 points today. Last year the minimum points were 350. He has the entry requirements and is also eligible for the HEAR Scheme. Could he get his course?

    There is no way of knowing for definite but having qualified under the HEAR scheme his chances have improved.   But even with the HEAR under his belt there are prioritised groups within this scheme  and also it depends on the number of HEAR places on the course and how many HEAR applicants are looking for these places.   He is definitely in with a chance but there is no way of knowing until Monday for definite.   Best ofluck to him.

  • 17:32

    My daughter is entitled to DARE points. However she has now decided she would prefer to do her second choice course for which she has sufficient points without needing the additional DARE points. Can she withdraw from DARE scheme now?

    She cannot withdraw from the DARE scheme now. Being eligible for DARE does not gaurantee you a reduced points place. She may still get her second choice. No one will know for definite until Monday. Best of luck. I hope that it works out.

  • 17:36

    My daughter didn't get enough points for first choice but did for her fourth, will she get this place on first round offers?

    Remember we don't know what the points are for 2017 yet so you are obviously basing the above on last years points.   This years points could be quite different.   However, in general if someone gets the points for their 4th preference as their highest in round one then they will be offered this and then in sucessive rounds they will be offered higher preference courses if they become entitled to them (if the points required drop).

  • 17:36

    I just checked my daughters grades against last year's points table.it seems her grades would have earned her 510 points in 2016 yet only 444 in 2017. How is this possible?


    Did you check this on the CAO website? It isn't possible to count 2017 grades into 2016 points. It's a different grading system and different points.

  • 17:39

    My my Grandson did not sufficient points for chosen sibject Business Study. He has 370 . Can you suggest alternative route please

    2017 cut off points will not be known until Monday. He probably has back up courses on his CAO order of choice in which he may get offered. Doing a plc course is now a common progression route used to get into  higher education.  I recommend that you look at this option also. Please get back on if you need more information.

  • 17:41

    My son got 423 points for a 450 point physics course in NUI. Do you think he'll get his course

    As you will see from all the other posts we really don't know what will be the impact of the new grading and points system on the points of individual courses.   Wrong conclusions could easily be drawn this year.   I'm afraid it's a waiting game to know definitively what he will be offered on Monday.     I wish you the best.

     

  • 17:41

    What do I do if all my courses on CAO are over 424 points and I only got 320 points really worried won't get anything I put down the courses I really wanted to do.

    First of all don't jump to any conclusions yet, wait until Monday to see exactly what happens.   You might be worrying about nothing.   If the above is the case however, there may be some courses in vacant places on the CAO website over the course of the next few days that you might be interested in applying for.   Also there is the FETAC (PLC) route which through the higher education links scheme can allow you to compete next year for CAO courses based on your FETAC scores.   You might go onto www.qualifax.ie and search for some PLC courses which you might be interested in just as a standby.   Best of luck on Monday.

  • 17:47

    Thank you for your reply. If the grades and points are so vastly different this year then I can only hope that the points required for her course will also drop as she is slightly short.

    Here's hoping she gets on ok on Monday.

  • 17:58

    Do you think the the new grading and points awarded system will most definitely have an impact on points required for 3rd level courses this year?

    Yes, I definitely feel that there is going to be an impact on the cut off points for courses because of the new grading and point system. The extent of this for individual courses is impossible to tell and will not be known until Monday.

  • 18:02

    Has the average number of points earned per student increased or decreased since last year. My daughters points are different to what she expected.

    I don't have definitive information on this to hand but my own view is that in the majority of cases the points of students will have dropped slightly.   Having looked at some students results from last year and calculated their points on this years system, some stayed exactly the same and some even jumped but the vast majority dropped.

  • 18:08
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